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		<title>Do Your Research</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good friend of mine has a very nifty catch phrase: Google is your friend.  Now, she generally uses this when she’s answering what she perceives to be a stupid question.  In fact, the more I think about it, it’s kind of rude.  But Google is in fact, your friend. Especially when it comes to dating somebody new.
 
Websites like Google, MySpace, Facebook, and Dontdatehimgirl.com are indispensable when it comes to doing your research before you get seriously involved with somebody.  A quick search can help ...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-702" title="Do your Homework" src="http://www.datester.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/doyourhomework-300x201.jpg" alt="Do your Homework" width="300" height="201" />A good friend of mine has a very nifty catch phrase: <em>Google is your friend.</em> <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Now, she generally uses this when she’s answering what she perceives to be a stupid question. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In fact, the more I think about it, it’s kind of rude. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But Google <em>is</em> in fact, your friend.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Especially when it comes to dating somebody new.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: small;">Websites like Google, MySpace, Facebook, and Dontdatehimgirl.com are indispensable when it comes to doing your research before you get seriously involved with somebody. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A quick search can help you find out rather quickly if he’s actually single, if he’s a convicted felon, been married before, or given an ex-girlfriend an STD. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The information age is here, folks, and we should be taking full advantage.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: small;">Google: Google is great for general info, but will give you just that: General info.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You might find out that he was a football star in High School, or an honor student, or if he leaves lots of comments using his real name on online discussion boards. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can also use it to search public records, if you’re concerned about something more serious, like say, is he married?</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: small;">MySpace and Facebook are very handy tools, if the guy&#8217;s profile isn’t private.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>If it is private, you can always request to be his friend. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can see how he interacts with his friends, pictures of him, his interests, and whether or not he has a girlfriend.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Is country music a deal breaker for you?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can find out his music tastes on here as well. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: small;">I met my fiancé Shane on Match.com.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I had never tried online dating before and I was incredibly nervous before we met in person, despite having emailed him for weeks and having several phone conversations. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>By looking him up on MySpace before we met, I was able to get a clearer picture of what he was like, and see lots more pictures of him, comforting my fears that he was actually a balding, middle aged man or something. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: small;">And I can’t forget my very favorite of all—Don’t Date Him Girl. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I saw this site on Oprah, and I *love* it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I think it’s absolutely brilliant.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It’s like a dating report card, mostly scorned women who can leave warnings for other women about why they shouldn’t date their ex-boyfriends. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The stories range from the usual warnings: “Don’t date this guy, he’s a cheater, liar, married, dog, etc.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>to <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>things like “This guy gave me herpes.” Or “This guy <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>is a con-artist and robbed me blind.” <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Now, this site only tells one side of the story, so <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I take the info on this website with a grain of salt, but you’d better believe that they guy who cheated on me and left me two weeks after we got married has a page dedicated to him on this site!</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: small;">A co-worker of mine looked up a guy she had been on a few dates with on Facebook.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>His profile was private , so she requested to be his friend. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When he didn’t accept her, she became suspicious and created a fake facebook, with a guy’s picture, and requested him again. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time, he accepted.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Imagine her shock and surprise when his relationship status said he was in a relationship, and his page was covered with pictures of him and his girlfriend. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Sure, it hurt to find out, but think how much worse it would have been if she had fallen in love with him.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A friend of one of my good friends found out that the guy she had been seeing was heavy into drugs, like cocaine, from checking out pictures on his social networking sites.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It’s an incredibly useful tool.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: small;">Lastly, I feel like I should stipulate: I am not promoting stalking, by any means.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’m just saying we should use resources we have available to us to make an informed decision when it comes to who we will and will not date and be left alone with. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Because it’s such an advantage, before you fall in love with somebody yucky, to be able to go online and check him out before you take that plunge. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So do your research, Nancy Drew!</span></span></p>
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		<title>The Hazards of Dating a Co-Worker (or your boss)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
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Love at Work
Once upon a time, in a far away land, a ridiculously cute redhead ventured into a zany adventure that would change her way of life. She had no way of knowing that this escapade would whisk her away for two years to a life of secrecy, insubordinate behavior, and a transfer to a new land, even further away.
 
Or in other words, I once dated a co-worker. Actually, I dated my boss, to be exact. 
 
It all started when I was 21 years old. I had just ...


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<div id="attachment_654" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-full wp-image-654" title="Love at Work" src="http://www.datester.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/739769_70645023.jpg" alt="Love at Work" width="300" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Love at Work</p></div>
<p>Once upon a time, in a far away land, a ridiculously cute redhead ventured into a zany adventure that would change her way of life.<span style="yes;"> </span>She had no way of knowing that this escapade would whisk her away for two years to a life of secrecy, insubordinate behavior, and a transfer to a new land, even further away.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Or in other words, I once dated a co-worker.<span style="yes;"> </span>Actually, I dated my boss, to be exact.<span style="yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">It all started when I was 21 years old.<span style="yes;"> </span>I had just been unceremoniously dumped by my boyfriend of 4 years, who, to be quite frank, I had always figured (in a way only a naïve 21 year old can) that we would get married one day and live happily ever after. <span style="yes;"> </span>Instead, he broke up with me on Christmas Eve so that he could date an unattractive older woman, and left me, alone and heartbroken, and totally susceptible to the charms of my 27 year old boss who was fairly cute, but lets face it, in retrospect, not really at all.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">I had never really paid much attention to my boss. <span style="yes;"> </span>He was not nearly as cute as my boyfriend, and plus he was 6 years older than me and had an extremely hairy chest, a physical trait that has never grown on me.<span style="yes;"> </span>That said, in my depressed state, this 27 year old man with the furry chest, and all the attention he was paying me became more and more appealing.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Now, of course, our work had a strict policy about dating co-workers, especially if there was a conflict of interest involved, say, I don’t know, hypothetically, you wanted to date….. your boss.<span style="yes;"> </span>That was strictly not allowed. <span style="yes;"> </span>So, we did what any 21 year old and incredibly immature 27 year old in a position of authority would do—we hid it.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Hiding it was fairly easy to do while we were in the “honeymoon” stage. <span style="yes;"> </span>Let me tell you when it became hard: when we were in a fight. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Imagine getting up in the morning with your significant other. <span style="yes;"> </span>Having coffee and then heading off to work… together. <span style="yes;"> </span>Then imagine getting to the office, and working within 5 feet of each other all day long. <span style="yes;"> </span>When 5 o’clock comes, you leave the office… together.<span style="yes;"> </span>Then, you go home, make dinner, and eat… together. <span style="yes;"> </span>Then you gorge on ice cream and popcorn and watch <em>The Biggest Loser</em> on television…. together.<span style="yes;"> </span>The next day, you wash, rinse repeat.<span style="yes;"> </span>Let me tell you, it’s easy to get on each other’s nerves.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">I will never forget one particular moment where I almost blew my cover..<span style="yes;"> </span>We worked in a travel agency (I was a travel agent) and my IATAN card (a travel agent ID card that basically proves you are a travel agent, and allows you travel agent discounts) had been expired for several months. <span style="yes;"> </span>It was my boss’s job to renew it, and I had been bugging him… for months. <span style="yes;"> </span>But I guess it wasn’t high on his priority list because I was his girlfriend, and I guess he thought I wouldn’t turn him in for not doing his job.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Anyway, I was about to leave on a trip where I was to stay in a $250 per night hotel for $59 per night, but I needed my IATAN card to do so. <span style="yes;"> </span>He had promised, over everything, that my IATAN card would be there on time. <span style="yes;"> </span>The Friday before the trip came.<span style="yes;"> </span>No IATAN card. <span style="yes;"> </span>He said it was coming and would be there by 3pm. <span style="yes;"> </span>I called IATAN.<span style="yes;"> </span>“No Ma’am.” They said “Your IATAN membership is expired.<span style="yes;"> </span>We haven’t received payment or the renewal forms.”</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Needless to say, I was pretty angry. <span style="yes;"> </span>I marched into my boss’s office, and slammed his door. <span style="yes;"> </span>I guess I was yelling, because when I looked through the window of his office, all of my co-workers were staring at us. <span style="yes;"> </span>When I was done, I came back out of the office, two of my middle aged co-workers, who were also tired of his procrastinating, gave me a mini-round of applause. <span style="yes;"> </span>Some of the others raised their eyebrows at me with a little smile though. <span style="yes;"> </span>I think they knew what was up.<span style="yes;"> </span>That was when I knew I probably needed to request a transfer to another office.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">If you’re secretly dating a co-worker, another thing you can’t really do is hang out with other couples from work. <span style="yes;"> </span>This means you can’t invite them to your parties, or even out for drinks, because they will likely catch on. <span style="yes;"> </span>Vacations are another issue.<span style="yes;"> </span>I remember we thought we were so sly, because whenever we went on vacation together, he would take two days off before me so that people wouldn’t know we were going at the same time. <span style="yes;"> </span>Um, yeah… right.<span style="yes;"> </span>I’m sure we had them fooled.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Another downside: Watching other co-workers hit on your boyfriend, because nobody knows that the two of you are dating. <span style="yes;"> </span>Even better—when your middle aged co-workers try to set you up with their sons because none of them know you have a boyfriend—and dealing with them when you turn down their sons and they get, naturally, offended.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">In the end, I did end up transferring to another office, which made me very unhappy. <span style="yes;"> </span>It was a much longer commute and I missed my old co-workers. <span style="yes;"> </span>When we broke up, I moved back to the office. <span style="yes;"> </span>There’s something even more awkward than dating your boss—having your ex-boyfriend as your boss. <span style="yes;"> </span>But I’m not even going to get into that.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Eventually, he was fired for, get this, using travelers checks to launder the company’s money, (yes, I know how to pick winners) and my life went back to normal.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">In the end, the ridiculously cute redhead lived happily ever after, with a man who was not her boss. <span style="yes;"> </span>But in the end, she never forgot the lesson she learned—Never date your boss. <span style="yes;"> </span>And don’t date your co-workers either, if you work somewhere where it’s not allowed. <span style="yes;"> </span>It just isn’t worth the trouble.</span></span></p>


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		<title>Dating Older Women</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Seven PM</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does dating an older women mean hotter sex, more attention?


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<p>At 45 she was drop dead gorgeous and could make a crowded room stop and stare. Simple magnetic sexual attraction.</p>
<p>He was just a young kid of 26, smart and interested in whether the myth was true about going out with an older women. He just had to find out.</p>
<p>It was no small feat to enter the circle of her world, she was rich, elegant, and divorced.  Every rich man was going after her. His tactic was going to have to be the opposite. In fact he only had average good looks, a good personality but a natural confidence with the ladies.</p>
<p>Finally he got audience, and played it cool, but friendly. She was even hotter up close. They chatted, made small talk. She wasn&#8217;t wearing a bra underneath the low cut silk blouse and he could clearly see she was erect. And her smell. Definitely not bubblegum. It was pure luxurious sophistication. He was feeling dizzy.</p>
<p>Through the small talk they found they were attending the same party later on in the week. As they kissed goodbye, she got up and brushed her breasts lightly across his arm.  He went home and masturbated.</p>
<p>She was a no-show at the next party. As he searched for the hostess to say goodbye, there she was, sitting in a chair in the kitchen chatting away with the hostess. She had come in through the back door. &#8220;I think you&#8217;re too drunk to drive home.  Can you drive him?&#8221; the hostess said looking at her. &#8220;Of course. I was going home anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>He slid into the passenger seat next to her, intoxicated by her presence, her smell. Her neck was exquisitely formed, her hair perfectly done. &#8220;Where do you live?&#8221; she said, bending slightly forward to start the car, revealing her beautifully shaped breast. He had to think a moment. Newport. Great that&#8217;s where she was headed.</p>
<p>They parked in a small lot next to his house to chat. It was clear there was mutual passion bubbling underneath but they were both trying to remain casual on the surface. Finally, he leaned over, kissed her lightly, and slipped his hand into her blouse and firmly cupped her breast. It wasn&#8217;t as firm as the younger girls but it was soft, full and&#8230; wonderful.</p>
<p>And that was the start of the sex fest. They did it everywhere, in the car, in the garage, in the laundry room of his condo. She consumed him whole in a movie theater. He fingered her while they casually dined with six other dining partners in a famous restaurant. She mounted him while driving home. He had the youth stamina to keep up with her insatiable appetite. He loved it when he could bring her body to a near crescendo, then maintain it until, with one thrust of his manhood deep into her core, bring her to a multiple climax that kept her body convulsing for more than an hour.</p>
<p>The better the sex, the better the perks. New clothes, presents, dining at expensive places, travel to exotic locations for intimate encounters. It was a goldmine. Until they started wanting more.</p>
<p>Her friends were all in their forties and fifties. His Mom&#8217;s age.  It was easier to hang out with his friends, but he could see she sometimes felt they were immature. Like her children.</p>
<p>On their last date, he wanted to make it a memorable one as they both knew it was over. He gently tied her to a chair with scarves fully clothed, and blind-folded her. Her breath was heavy, anticipatory.  It took an hour for her to be fully nude, only the blind fold remained. He kissed, licked and touched every part of her body. Again he didn&#8217;t let her come for another hour, bringing her close, but always stopping when he sensed she was going over the edge. She was swollen, blood pulsing thickly through her body. Finally, with one last small flick of his tongue, she convulsed, arching her body backwards and almost tipping over the chair. He caught her, held her close while wave after wave came over her. When she finally became still, he removed her bindings, kissed her lightly, and they said goodbye for the last time.</p>


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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are two schools of thought on the burden of guilt with regard to the other woman.  There are those who think that the only person who owes you faith and loyalty is your partner.  And then there are those, like me, who feel that as women, we should have a faith and loyalty to each other.  I’m not saying the man shouldn’t shoulder the blame. He should.  But, it is my belief, that when the other woman knows of your existence, that she should bare ...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-554" title="Women's obligation" src="http://www.datester.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/women2women-300x198.jpg" alt="Women's obligation" width="300" height="198" />There are two schools of thought on the burden of guilt with regard to the other woman.  There are those who think that the only person who owes you faith and loyalty is your partner.  And then there are those, like me, who feel that as women, we should have a faith and loyalty to <em>each other</em>. <span style="yes;"> </span>I’m not saying the man shouldn’t shoulder the blame.<span style="yes;"> </span>He should. <span style="yes;"> </span>But, it is my belief, that when the other woman knows of your existence, that she should bare some of the responsibility for your broken heart.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">We all complain about men and their cheating.<span style="yes;"> </span>It is my firm belief that we, women, could almost eliminate the issue, if we would stop being willing participants.<span style="yes;"> </span>In fact, I feel that we have an obligation to women as women, not to knowingly participate in betrayal in another woman’s relationship. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Go ahead, call me a dreamer.<span style="yes;"> </span>But I don’t think I’m so unrealistic.<span style="yes;"> </span>I refuse to believe that this is something that we women will do to each other forever.<span style="yes;"> </span>To quote Barack Obama, my current favorite person in the world, “Nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change.”  Through the centuries, people have been telling women about all of the things they can’t do.<span style="yes;"> </span>Well, I resent being told that this is something we can’t do.<span style="yes;"> </span>It’s so easy.<span style="yes;"> </span>If you know that somebody is in a relationship, don’t start a relationship with that person.<span style="yes;"> </span>If you start a relationship with a new guy, and find out later that he already has a mate, end the relationship.<span style="yes;"> </span>I feel like we need the Staples “Easy” button for this.<span style="yes;"> </span>It’s that simple.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="small;"><span style="Calibri;">I know we&#8217;d never get rid of cheating 100%&#8230; There will always be those guys who lie.  Wedding rings come off, we all know that.  But consider this dismaying observation: Most people who are cheating with somebody who is having an affair, already know that person is in a relationship. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Many, many women don’t see this the way I do.<span style="yes;"> </span>In their opinion, the only person who has made a commitment to the relationship is the man, and she, the other woman, owes his partner nothing.<span style="yes;"> </span>I find this phenomenon fascinating, in fact, a long time ago, I explored the idea of writing a book on the subject.  Dean McDermott’s ex-wife beat me to it, but still, my research was intriguing.  What I found, from random surveys, is that most women who are sleeping with another woman’s partner have justified it in their heads.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">The justifications are always the same.<span style="yes;"> </span>The man is the one doing the cheating. <span style="yes;"> </span>She has made no commitment to his partner, so why should she worry about her feelings? <span style="yes;"> </span>The guys’s wife/girlfriend deserves it.<span style="yes;"> </span>She never pays attention to him, she’s controlling, she’s let herself go, she never gives him any sex.<span style="yes;"> </span>He’s one of her ex-boyfriends, and she had him first. She didn’t know about the girlfriend or wife when she started the relationship, and once she found out, she just couldn’t give him up… <span style="yes;"> </span>I could go on and on and on.<span style="yes;"> </span>But I think these excuses are just that. <span style="yes;"> </span>Excuses, and bad ones at that. <span style="yes;"> </span>Excuses that we make up to justify our own unsavory behavior.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">What ever happened to love thy neighbor? What ever happened to treat others the way you want to be treated? Karma? Or how about respect and dignity for other people as people?<span style="yes;"> </span>I’m no hypocrite.<span style="yes;"> </span>As I write this, I can honestly say that I have never coveted another woman’s man. <span style="yes;"> </span>I realize I might sound very pious and holier-than-thou to many of you. <span style="yes;"> </span>But I’m not.<span style="yes;"> </span>I’m not a perfect person by any means. <span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span>But this has always been something I just won’t do. <span style="yes;"> </span>I think it’s an incredibly selfish act, and personally, I don’t want to be responsible for making another woman feel the actual <em>physical</em> pain and heartbreak that comes with discovering that your partner is having an affair.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">When I was 25 years old, I married Dan, a boyfriend I had been living with for over two years.<span style="yes;"> </span>We had, I thought, a very good relationship.<span style="yes;"> </span>We trusted each other implicitly and we seldom fought. <span style="yes;"> </span>I was in no hurry to get married, but he proposed to me on his own, and I accepted. <span style="yes;"> </span>We had a large wedding in front of virtually every person I knew. <span style="yes;"> </span>All of my friends, family, and co-workers were in attendance. <span style="yes;"> </span>We took a honeymoon to Hawaii.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">When we returned from Hawaii, Dan went off on a 3 day dirt bike trip with his friends.<span style="yes;"> </span>When he came back, he told me that we needed to talk. <span style="yes;"> </span>He told me that he felt like he had made a mistake in getting married and that he hadn’t been ready. <span style="yes;"> </span>I felt dizzy and nauseous.<span style="yes;"> </span>Then he dropped the bombshell.<span style="yes;"> </span>He told me he was in love with somebody else. <span style="yes;"> </span>That he wanted to get divorced.<span style="yes;"> </span>He didn’t want to go to counseling, or even talk about it. <span style="yes;"> </span>He had been thinking about it all weekend and he had made up his mind.<span style="yes;"> </span>I went into the bathroom and threw up.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Naturally, I wanted to know why. <span style="yes;"> </span>No answer.<span style="yes;"> </span>Crickets, actually. <span style="yes;"> </span>He just kept telling me that it wasn’t my fault, I hadn’t done anything wrong, but that he couldn’t help who he fell in love with. <span style="yes;"> </span>I wanted to know who she was, he wouldn’t tell me. <span style="yes;"> </span>I wanted to know why he didn’t tell me this before, oh, say, we got married in front of 200 of our closest friends and family members. <span style="yes;"> </span>He didn’t know until this weekend, he said.<span style="yes;"> </span>I packed a bag full of my stuff, took my cat Mr. Toad, and went to stay at my best friend’s house.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">As you would expect, everyone was shocked. <span style="yes;"> </span>It was the single most humiliating and degrading experience of my life. <span style="yes;"> </span>Worse than the shock and outrage was the sympathy.<span style="yes;"> </span>“Poor Shannon…. She never saw it coming.” “Poor Shannon…. We knew that guy was bad news from the beginning…” </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">His mother called me to tell me she was disowning him. <span style="yes;"> </span>That she couldn’t believe a son she had raised would do such a thing. <span style="yes;"> </span>That she would always love me as a daughter.<span style="yes;"> </span>I sobbed into the phone. <span style="yes;"> </span>I took 3 weeks off of work, which I spent lying in bed crying.<span style="yes;"> </span>I couldn’t face anybody. <span style="yes;"> </span>When I did go back to work, I had to leave my desk about a hundred times a day to lock myself in a bathroom stall and sob. <span style="yes;"> </span>I decided I was going to be an old maid, and I bought a brother for Mr. Toad. <span style="yes;"> </span>The new kitten, Mr. Piggy completed my transition into complete and total cat-lady.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">About a week after Dan’s stunning revelation, I went to our house with my mom while I knew he was at work to get my mail. <span style="yes;"> </span>In the mailbox, amongst the stacks of utility bills and junk mail, was a post card. <span style="yes;"> </span>On the post card, in a pink pen, was written “Dear Dan,<span style="yes;"> </span>Here’s the post card you told me to send. <span style="yes;"> </span>Thank you for an amasing (sic) week.<span style="yes;"> </span>You are such an amasing (sic) person and I love you. <span style="yes;"> </span>XOXO Wendy.”<span style="yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">I stared at the post card for a couple of minutes. <span style="yes;"> </span>It was one of those free ones that hotels give out.<span style="yes;"> </span>It had some hotel on the front, I can’t remember which one anymore. <span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span>My blood started to boil.<span style="yes;"> </span>I didn’t know if I wanted to scream or sob or laugh hysterically. <span style="yes;"> </span>Amazing? I could think of other words for him. <span style="yes;"> </span>Why had my husband left me for somebody who couldn’t even spell the word “amazing” correctly? Twice?<span style="yes;"> </span>Wendy… where did I know that name? I knew somebody with that name.<span style="yes;"> </span>Who was it?<span style="yes;"> </span>But worst of all…. Why was this woman sending love note post cards to MY house? <span style="yes;"> </span>Where I would get them and be able to read them?</span></span></p>
<p>I called Dan in a fury.<span style="yes;"> </span>Turns out, his girlfriend, Wendy, didn’t believe him that he had left me. <span style="yes;"> </span>To prove it, he had allowed her to send a post card to our house, telling her that if I hadn’t moved out, I’d get it, and if he hadn’t really left his wife he wouldn’t risk such a thing. <span style="yes;"> </span>I couldn’t believe that either one of them was so un-concerned with my feelings.<span style="yes;"> </span>Dan knew I came there to get the mail.<span style="yes;"> </span>Wendy sent the thing knowing that if I didn’t already know about her, I’d know now.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Two weeks after that, I went to our house to get some more of my things. <span style="yes;"> </span>I went into our bedroom to get some things from my closet, and found naked pictures of Wendy all over the place. <span style="yes;"> </span>Ones she had given him.<span style="yes;"> </span>“Professional Modeling Portraits” taken at some place called, get this, <em>the Rusty Cock Ranch</em>. <span style="yes;"> </span>Wendy looked like the wrestler, China.<span style="yes;"> </span>She had at least 75lbs on me. <span style="yes;"> </span>She had jet black hair with two thick white stripes bleached through it, countless tattoos and body piercings… And she was posing naked for a photographer. <span style="yes;"> </span>It was like he had gone out and found the exact opposite of me and fallen in love with her. <span style="yes;"> </span>It was awful.<span style="yes;"> </span>And not only had they done this to me, they were now rubbing their relationship in my face. <span style="yes;"> </span>Leaving those pictures out when he knew I was coming to collect me things. <span style="yes;"> </span>The post card, all of it.<span style="yes;"> </span>It was almost too much for me to handle.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Later, I realized that I knew Wendy.<span style="yes;"> </span>Dan was a personal trainer, and Wendy worked the front desk at his gym. <span style="yes;"> </span>I had even met her once.<span style="yes;"> </span>Everyone at that gym knew that Dan and I were engaged, many of them attended our wedding. <span style="yes;"> </span>I found out eventually that Dan and Wendy had been carrying on before we were married. <span style="yes;"> </span>Either one of them could have said something to me, could have stopped the wedding, could have spared me the humiliation and pain of it all, of being divorced two weeks after I got married. <span style="yes;"> </span>But they didn’t.<span style="yes;"> </span>Why? <span style="yes;"> </span>I can think of only one reason: Pure and unadulterated egotism and cowardice. <span style="yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">So, I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for the other woman, if she knows what is going on. <span style="yes;"> </span>I have nothing but sympathy for women who are duped into dating married men unknowingly—if they end the relationship when they find out. <span style="yes;"> </span>But for those who do it with their eyes wide open, I feel like it is an unbelievably selfish act.<span style="yes;"> </span>I think it is done to boost up low self-confidence, for the thrill of the chase, to make her feel good about herself. <span style="yes;"> </span>All the while tearing apart another woman’s heart and self esteem. <span style="yes;"> </span>And I don’t think anybody deserves that kind of pain.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Ladies, wake up! You should not be consistently calling, emailing, hanging out alone with, flirting with, or spending time alone with some other girl&#8217;s boyfriend, husband, or fiancé.  Nor should you be exchanging flirty emails at work, going on lunch dates, or going out after work for a drink alone with them.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">In my opinion, Dan, and all people who cheat on their partners, are really just a sufferers of &#8220;the grass is always greener&#8221; complex.  Did Wendy really think she kept up her lawn that much better than I kept mine?<span style="yes;"> </span>I watered that thing daily.<span style="yes;"> </span>So, to Wendy, I say  “Somebody else&#8217;s grass will always be greener than yours.  You were just being used.  And in the process, you treated another innocent women (me) like crap.  I hope moles dig up your yard, and your grass turns brown and dies.”</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">And in the end, Wendy’s grass did turn brown and die. <span style="yes;"> </span>She and Dan broke up shortly after our divorce was finalized.<span style="yes;"> </span>And I got my happily ever after.<span style="yes;"> </span>I have an absolutely dashing fiancé who respects what I have been through and loves me unconditionally, despite my two cats.<span style="yes;"> </span>Wendy and Dan? Currently both single.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">And as for the baggage this whole experience left me with, well, I boxed up most of it, including that appalling postcard, and I flung it into the sea. <span style="yes;"> </span>The rest, I keep with me, as a lesson learned in human kindness and karma. <span style="yes;"> </span>Treat others the way you want to be treated.<span style="yes;"> </span>Don’t tear others down to build yourself up.<span style="yes;"> </span>What goes around comes around.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="auto;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">So ladies, stop the insanity.  Stop participating in this madness.   And don’t forget—inner ugliness is the worst possible trait a person can have.  Don’t be inner ugly.  Help find a cure.  Don’t be an eager participant in the game of disloyalty. <span style="yes;"> </span>If we all band together, if we all remain true to our obligation to each other, as women, and as human beings, we can, at the very least, put a dent in the tragedy that is infidelity. </span></span></p>
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I find that there are two schools of thought regarding who should pay for dates.  Some women feel that the man should always pay for dates, and some people feel it is more fair to go dutch.  I have a very clear opinion on this subject.
 
Guys, if you don’t want to be thought of as a cheap-o, you should always pay for the first date.  You should insist upon it. Ladies, it is always a nice gesture to pull out your wallet and offer to ...


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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;">I find that there are two schools of thought regarding who should pay for dates. <span style="yes;"> </span>Some women feel that the man should always pay for dates, and some people feel it is more fair to go dutch. <span style="yes;"> </span>I have a very clear opinion on this subject.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;">Guys, if you don’t want to be thought of as a cheap-o, you should always pay for the first date. <span style="yes;"> </span>You should insist upon it.<span style="yes;"> </span>Ladies, it is always a nice gesture to pull out your wallet and offer to pay for the first date, even if you have no intention of doing so. <span style="yes;"> </span>It’s more like a courtesy offer. <span style="yes;"> </span>In all my dating life, I have only had one man take me up on the first date courtesy offer.<span style="yes;"> </span>He was a traveling vacuum salesman and he took me to Taco Del Mar.<span style="yes;"> </span>We just had the one date.<span style="yes;"> </span>Enough said.<span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span>If you do the courtesy offer, and he takes you up on it, well, there are plenty of fish in the sea.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;">Now, on the second date, the woman should pay. <span style="yes;"> </span>She should be resolute about it. <span style="yes;"> </span>Even if the man tries to insist that he pay.<span style="yes;"> </span>If necessary, you might have to have a little fight over the bill. <span style="yes;"> </span>You know, the way our moms do when they go out for lunch with their friends. <span style="yes;"> </span>This is 2008.<span style="yes;"> </span>Women can vote now.<span style="yes;"> </span>We have careers, credit card bills, car payments, and our own homes. We don’t need to depend on men to pay for everything, nor should they have to.<span style="yes;"> </span>I’m not saying that you need to obsess about equality and switching off.<span style="yes;"> </span>He might treat you to two dinners and you treat him to one. <span style="yes;"> </span>The following month, maybe you’ll pay for more things than he does. <span style="yes;"> </span>The point is to have a healthy balance, so that you are equal partners and that one of you doesn’t go bankrupt in the process.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;">My brother has a particularly horrid ex-girlfriend who he dated for three years. <span style="yes;"> </span>They lived together for most of that time.<span style="yes;"> </span>They both had full time jobs, and for parts of their relationship, she made more money than he did.<span style="yes;"> </span>After they broke up, he told me that he had paid for every single date.<span style="yes;"> </span>Every single dinner.<span style="yes;"> </span>For 3 years.<span style="yes;"> </span>And they used to go out for dinner 3-4 times per week.<span style="yes;"> </span>I did the math, and that’s about twenty-two thousand dollars my brother spent on dinners in three years. <span style="yes;"> </span>Guys, if you do all the paying in the beginning of a relationship, you’re going to set a precedent that will remain throughout your entire relationship.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;">Remember the line in <em>When Harry Met Sally</em>?<span style="yes;"> </span>Harry says “</span><span style="Arial;">You take someone to the airport, its clearly the beginning of the relationship. That&#8217;s why I have never taken anyone to the airport at the beginning of a relationship.<span style="yes;"> </span>Because eventually things move on and you don&#8217;t take someone to the airport and I never wanted anyone to say to me, How come you never take me to the airport anymore?”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Arial;">Well, paying for dates is the same.<span style="yes;"> </span>Eventually, you’re going to get tired of paying for all the dates, and if you bring it up, your girlfriend is going to deduce from that conversation that you don’t love her as much as you used to. <span style="yes;"> </span>Trust me.<span style="yes;"> </span>I’m a woman.<span style="yes;"> </span>I know these things.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Arial;">Gentlemen, do yourself a favor, for me.<span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span>If you’re dating one of those women who wants to be treated like a queen, and for some reason doesn’t think she should ever have to pay for anything just because she has boobs and a nice butt—RUN. <span style="yes;"> </span>Run away fast.<span style="yes;"> </span>Find yourself a woman who will treat you like an equal. <span style="yes;"> </span>We don’t have princesses here in America.  The closest thing we have is Paris Hilton, and she doesn’t really count. <span style="yes;"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Arial;">Yes, it’s very chivalrous of you to offer. <span style="yes;"> </span>We appreciate it.<span style="yes;"> </span>But we don’t need it. <span style="yes;"> </span>And most of us wouldn’t take you up on it.<span style="yes;"> </span>Sure, there are those girls who would take advantage of you if you let them. <span style="yes;"> </span>These girls drive nice cars that their parent’s bought them, with glittery bumper stickers that say “I’m a Princess, That’s Why.” They carry around designer dogs in designer purses and wear designer clothes. <span style="yes;"> </span>And they expect you to pay for their dinner.<span style="yes;"> </span>Always. <span style="yes;"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Arial;">My fiancé and I are total equals in this regard. <span style="yes;"> </span>It’s actually very fun to come home and surprise my honey with “Lets go out for dinner tonight—my treat.”<span style="yes;"> </span>And it’s nice when he surprises me in the same way. <span style="yes;"> </span>As women, if we want to be treated like equals, we should act like it.<span style="yes;"> </span>And that includes paying for the occasional movie date, or dinner at The Olive Garden. </span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are They Cheating?  Get Tested.
I’ve had two men cheat on me in my life.  Both times it was devastating. When it happened with the first one, I was 21 years old, and I had just defied my parent’s wishes and moved in with a guy for the first time. I had broken up with my first love, my boyfriend of 4 years only a few months prior.  Matt was a rebound relationship, my boss, and 6 years older than me. In retrospect, I can see why my ...


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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">I’ve had two men cheat on me in my life. <span style="yes;"> </span>Both times it was devastating.<span style="yes;"> </span>When it happened with the first one, I was 21 years old, and I had just defied my parent’s wishes and moved in with a guy for the first time.<span style="yes;"> </span>I had broken up with my first love, my boyfriend of 4 years only a few months prior. <span style="yes;"> </span>Matt was a rebound relationship, my boss, and 6 years older than me.<span style="yes;"> </span>In retrospect, I can see why my parents were so upset.<span style="yes;"> </span>But I was wearing rose colored glasses and was positive that we would live happily ever after, and I was having fun playing house.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Six months after we moved in together, I started to feel uneasy about Matt.<span style="yes;"> </span>I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but I didn’t believe him about certain things. <span style="yes;"> </span>For one thing, he told me he was taking a computer class so he could get a new position at Microsoft, and was gone every night from 5:00 p.m. until 9:00 or 10:00 p.m., but I never saw a book or saw him do any homework.<span style="yes;"> </span>I had not met any of his friends, or his family. <span style="yes;"> </span>I found this odd as well.<span style="yes;"> </span>When I asked him about meeting his friends and family, he told me he wanted to wait, because they had all really liked his ex-girlfriend, and he wanted to give them time to get over it first.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">I was feeling more and more uneasy about this every day. <span style="yes;"> </span>One evening, while Matt was at class, I decided to go through his drawer of bills and things.<span style="yes;"> </span>I was looking for his credit card bill.<span style="yes;"> </span>Anyone who has ever watched a chick flick knows that the credit card statement is always where you go to find out if somebody has been cheating on you. <span style="yes;"> </span>I felt very Meryl Streep a’la <em>Heartburn</em> while I looked through his drawers.<span style="yes;"> </span>I almost expected soft Carly Simon music to start playing in the background as I rifled through stacks of envelopes and papers. <span style="yes;"> </span>I was terrified he would catch me.<span style="yes;"> </span>But I found it.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">There it was in black and white.<span style="yes;"> </span>Matt had not been taking a computer class. <span style="yes;"> </span>Matt had been spending his evenings in Woodinville, which was nowhere near his supposed “class” in Edmonds. <span style="yes;"> </span>Dinners, lots of dinners on his credit card statement.<span style="yes;"> </span>Dinners for two, unless he was eating fifty dollars worth of food on his own each night. <span style="yes;"> </span>At places like The Olive Garden, Tony Roma’s, and Alfie’s Pizza.<span style="yes;"> </span>Now that’s classy. <span style="yes;"> </span>At least he was taking her out in style.<span style="yes;"> </span>Movies—lots of charges from Regal Cinemas, and grocery stores in Woodinville.<span style="yes;"> </span>He had supposedly gone out of town a few weeks earlier for a football game in Pullman with his friends. <span style="yes;"> </span>I noticed on those dates that he had spent 3 nights at the Silver Cloud Inn in Woodinville. <span style="yes;"> </span>I felt like I had been punched in the stomach.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Matt had led me to believe that he had broken up with his ex girlfriend Amy because he came home to the apartment they shared and found her in bed with someone else.<span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span>As a 27 year old, I now know how utterly ridiculous that sounds. <span style="yes;"> </span>When I was 20, I believed it.<span style="yes;"> </span>Suddenly, I started wondering if this story was true. <span style="yes;"> </span>I got on my computer and googled Amy’s name.<span style="yes;"> </span>Up came her name, address, and phone number.<span style="yes;"> </span>In Woodinville.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">I called Matt’s cell phone. <span style="yes;"> </span>It was turned off.<span style="yes;"> </span>It was always turned off while he was in “class.” <span style="yes;"> </span>So I called Amy’s number.<span style="yes;"> </span>I got her voicemail.<span style="yes;"> </span>I left her a message, telling her I was Matt’s live-in girlfriend and asked her to please give me a call back. <span style="yes;"> </span>Within 5 minutes I had a call from Matt.<span style="yes;"> </span>“You’ve been cheating on me with Amy.” I said.<span style="yes;"> </span>He denied it and said he had just gotten out of class.<span style="yes;"> </span>I didn’t buy it.<span style="yes;"> </span>“Come home right now.” I told him. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">In all my life, I had never been so angry.<span style="yes;"> </span>I paced around our 600 square foot apartment, alternately bawling my eyes out and storming around in a rage.<span style="yes;"> </span>2 hours later, Matt walked in the door.<span style="yes;"> </span>We had a fight, me yelling and crying, and him looking me straight in the eye and denying all charges against him. <span style="yes;"> </span>I was crazy he said.<span style="yes;"> </span>He loved me he said. <span style="yes;"> </span>I was imagining things, he said.<span style="yes;"> </span>I stared at him in disbelief.<span style="yes;"> </span>Did he really take me for a total idiot? <span style="yes;"> </span>Did he really think I would just take his word for it when I had the proof, right in front of me in black and white? In my gut, I knew he was lying.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">He stood across from me in the living room, denying the allegations.<span style="yes;"> </span>Calling me crazy.<span style="yes;"> </span>I started to feel a little crazy.<span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span>It was almost Christmas.<span style="yes;"> </span>I picked up a cookie tin full of those little shortbread cookies and threw it at his head.<span style="yes;"> </span>I didn’t care if I took his head off.<span style="yes;"> </span>I would hide his body in an Eastern Washington wooded area and nobody would ever find it.<span style="yes;"> </span>This was my well thought out plan.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">I missed Matt’s head by about 3 inches and the cookie tin exploded all over the wall.<span style="yes;"> </span>Cookie crumbs everywhere. <span style="yes;"> </span>In hindsight, I’m lucky it missed his head, but at the moment, I was really pissed off about it. <span style="yes;"> </span>I didn’t even care about the mess I had just made. <span style="yes;"> </span>Matt left.<span style="yes;"> </span>Probably on his way back to Amy’s.<span style="yes;"> </span>“Good!” I said to myself. <span style="yes;"> </span>I started gathering up his clothing. I was going to throw it off the balcony, just as I’d been taught by Rosie Perez in <em>It Could Happen to You.</em><span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">It occurred to me suddenly that I didn’t know who else he had been cheating on me with. <span style="yes;"> </span>It could be any number of people.<span style="yes;"> </span>I could have Chlamydia. <span style="yes;"> </span>Or something worse, something permanent.<span style="yes;"> </span>Sexually transmitted diseases are everywhere. <span style="yes;"> </span>I recently read that one in 4 sexually active adults had herpes.<span style="yes;"> </span>How was I going to get a new boyfriend if I had herpes?<span style="yes;"> </span>I’d have to go onto one of those online dating sites specifically for people with herpes.<span style="yes;"> </span>And I’d only slept with two people in my life.<span style="yes;"> </span>I began to weep.<span style="yes;"> </span>I abandoned my plan to throw his clothes off the balcony and went to sleep.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">The next morning, Amy called me.<span style="yes;"> </span>She confirmed that she and Matt had been sleeping together and dating again, but that she had not known about me. <span style="yes;"> </span>“I guess he was playing us both.” She said.<span style="yes;"> </span>I believed her.<span style="yes;"> </span>Turns out that the way Matt had broken up with Amy had been pretty horrible, but that’s another story for another time. <span style="yes;"> </span>I thanked her for her call.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">My self esteem was extremely low. <span style="yes;"> </span>I suppose that it had something to do with the way my last relationship had ended. <span style="yes;"> </span>My ex-boyfriend had not cheated on me, but he had broken up with me so that he could date somebody else, a friend of his. <span style="yes;"> </span>This was heartbreaking, and not good for my self image. <span style="yes;"> </span>Then, here was Matt, overweight, unattractive, a liar, and he didn’t want me either.<span style="yes;"> </span>If Matt didn’t want me, who would? <span style="yes;"> </span>I felt low.<span style="yes;"> </span>That’s probably why, when Matt came home a couple of days later, begging for forgiveness, I forgave.<span style="yes;"> </span>This was a mistake.<span style="yes;"> </span>I can honestly say that the year I wasted staying with Matt after this incident was the loneliest, saddest, most emotionally scarring time of my life.<span style="yes;"> </span><span style="yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Matt cheated on me for the next year before I finally got fed up and left him.<span style="yes;"> </span>I got an STD test (clean, thank God), packed up Toad, my cat, and all of my belongings, and went straight to my best friend Emma’s house. <span style="yes;"> </span>She made me a cup of tea, gave me a spare bedroom, and I got over it. <span style="yes;"> </span>Her husband gave me the best advice I received during that time, and now I am going to share it with you. <span style="yes;"> </span>When you are in a bad relationship, when there is cheating or abuse going on, it is, inevitably going to end. <span style="yes;"> </span>No matter what, you are going to have to feel that pain. <span style="yes;"> </span>That agonizing feeling that enters your heart when a relationship ends, that actual <em>physical</em> pain, is going to have to come eventually. <span style="yes;"> </span>So you can either deal with it now or later, but you’re going to have to deal eventually, so why not get it over with.<span style="yes;"> </span>I realized I had stayed in a relationship for far too long, just so that I could avoid that feeling. <span style="yes;"> </span>It wasn’t worth it.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="Calibri;"><span style="small;">Matt taught me my golden rule.<span style="yes;"> </span>Once a cheater, always a cheater. <span style="yes;"> </span>I used to think this was something that only bitter old cat ladies said, but now I say it too. <span style="yes;"> </span>Later in my life, when another man cheated on me, I left him right away. <span style="yes;"> </span>I had learned my lesson.<span style="yes;"> </span>If anything, do it for your health. <span style="yes;"> </span>Remember, when you sleep with somebody, you are sleeping with everyone they have ever slept with. <span style="yes;"> </span>And if they’re cheating on you, that STD test you took before you threw out your condoms in favor of birth control is pointless.<span style="yes;"> </span>After all, diamonds are forever, but so is herpes.</span></span></p>
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